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New billboard promotes atheist gospel

LEMON GROVE, Calif. – A local group hopes to “shine a positive light on Atheism” with a new billboard message along a local freeway.

Athiest BillboardThe billboard, which is set to go up alongside State Route 94 this week near the College Avenue exit, will read “Atheism, a personal relationship with reality,” San Diego Coalition for Reason Director Debbie Allen said.

“When people hear the word ‘atheism’ or ‘atheist,’ they usually think of a corrupt, bad person, and that’s far from the truth,” said Allen.

But some residents would rather see the billboard go up somewhere else.

“I’d rather that they didn’t do it, but I love this country and freedom of speech is something that’s protected to all of us,” said longtime Lemon Grove resident Elmer Lewis.

Down the road from the billboard is the Christian Church of Lemon Grove, where members are worried about how this message will be received by the community.

“I don’t know how much an atheistic message like that will resonate around here,” said Pastor Will Warren.

“It’s a conclusion that there simply isn’t enough evidence of super natural beings,” said Allen, who hopes the billboard encourages those who think like her to join local atheist groups.

“For such a type of believe stating there’s nothing else that connects them together and they’re coming together for a sense of community? I don’t get that,” said Warren.

“We believe we are entitled to our opinion,” said Allen.

Some residents have also expressed concern over whether the billboard will be too distracting for drivers.

The cost of the billboard, which will be up by noon Thursday, was $4,000. The location was selected due to low cost.

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41 Comments to “New billboard promotes atheist gospel”

    D. Hall said:
    January 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    If we are right and Jesus is our Saviour we have gained everything. If we are wrong, we have lost nothing.
    If an atheist is wrong, they have lost everything. Just because we can't see the air we breath doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

      Kitch said:
      January 31, 2013 at 5:18 AM

      A just god wouldn't judge someone based on their faith or lack there of, but on their good deeds. Only a petty god would reward or punish based on faith.

      We can detect the air, test for it. We can't test god.

        Nona31 said:
        January 31, 2013 at 9:54 AM

        Kitch, if it was based on deeds then by your " logic" a child molester that gives food to the poor will not be judge, because he does good deeds on the side?

        A good judge will condemn the wicked. Fact is there is sin the world, Jesus came to take the sin of the world a lost world at that. Atheism has no accountability for moral standards.. Oh and by the way you can test God, maybe you too need to read the bible before condemning it.

        * note: just by saying if God exist let there be fire..etc ( HA its' like saying we evolved and there's proof transitional forms. )
        Read the bible and ask God to revel him self to you.. if you want to test him.

        Malachi 3:10 Please test me in this,
        says the Lord of heavenly forces.
        See whether I do not open all the windows of the heavens for you
        and empty out a blessing until there is enough.

          Elle said:
          January 31, 2013 at 10:13 AM

          Luke 4:12 Jesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"

          So, which is it?

            Nona31 said:
            January 31, 2013 at 10:26 AM

            Please read it within context. Jesus was being asked to do something out of temptation. Jesus was with out fault and sin and was being told to do something to make him sin. 'causing him to jeopardize our salvation!

      Jay said:
      January 31, 2013 at 6:06 AM

      What you are proposing is called "Pascal's wager" it is a theological argument that really does not prove anything and is illogical. One of the failures of this game theory is that belief cost nothing. That is not true, some people give up everything including, money, family, and even life for thire belief . I love the following quote.

      “”Pascal's wager: Believing in and searching for Kryptonite on the off chance that Superman exists and wants to kill you.
      —Blaise Pascal

      Elle said:
      January 31, 2013 at 10:10 AM

      If the Hindus are right, and Kali and all her friends are the real gods, they have gained everything. If they are wrong, they will have lost nothing. If you are wrong, and Jesus is a false god, you have lost everything! The fact is, you only subscribe to one religion. There are tens of thousands to choose from. In all mathematical probability, you are just as "wrong" as I am.

        Nona31 said:
        January 31, 2013 at 10:43 AM

        actually no.. Hindus don't offer salvation..
        Only through Jesus Christ there's salvation. Hindus believe in reincarnation..

      skeptik0 said:
      January 31, 2013 at 11:03 AM

      Pascal wager again? This is a false dichotomy, there aren't only two choices. You can believe in Jesus, Mohammed, Odin, Zeuss, RA and just about another 1,000 other gods of past and present religions.
      All the religions other than Christianity will consider you a miscreant and an atheist (fun fact: to the ancient Romans, Christians were atheists and often persecuted as such).

      So it's not as simple as either believing in god and have a chance of going to heaven or not believing and going to hell, you have to pick the right god to believe. If you are American, very likely that god is Yahweh, but all it takes is a small chance of scenery for that god to become the God of Islam, Allah (which is the same god and a straight translation for "God" but a very different theology) , or an Hindu god or a polynesian one or the god of another 1,000 other religions.

      Are you sure Jesus is the one? Almost a billion Hindus will disagree with you.

      Choose wisely.

        Nona31 said:
        January 31, 2013 at 11:18 AM

        Yes, Jesus is the one. Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

        I'm glad for our fellow missionaries that risk their lives to preach the Gospel. Also to answer your question, you might want to read Romans 1: 18 but the clincher is : 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

      Erika said:
      January 31, 2013 at 2:25 PM

      You can't see the air you breathe because the particles are toooo tiny! Some people need religion because they need answers to questions that humans can't answer and because they need a source of hope and faith that everything is ok. Aethiests realize that the only hope we have is amongst ourselves instead of some man in the sky or whatever you believe. It is not bad nor good. Religion, on the other hand, has been a factor in all World Wars in the past, present and future.

      Fritz said:
      February 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

      Actually, if you are wrong you have lost…well, a lot in life. The ability to think freely being one of many. Morality is a touchy subject, and finding your own morals is a difficult challenge in life, but subjecting yourself to a certain code without ever doubting that code is as chaining as religion. So, technically, you have lost a lot, a lot of potential opportunities and a lot of potential ideas.

    Atheist said:
    January 30, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Yea but their is proof and evidence that their is air and we are breathing it, idiot.

    Rock said:
    January 31, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    God bless all the atheists, even the non tolerants like these.
    They need it.

      merlynleroy said:
      January 31, 2013 at 7:07 AM

      In what way is putting up a billboard "non tolerant"?

      skeptik0 said:
      January 31, 2013 at 11:21 AM

      Could you be a bit more condescending?

      I don't know if you are referring to all atheists, the ones putting up the billboard or the ones posting here, but either way, I very much doubt Jesus would be happy with your comment and the spirit in which you posted it.
      1- pride/arrogance (Mk 7:22 NIV; Isa 2:17,11 NIV; Ro 1:30; 2 Cor 11:20; Isa 13:11)
      2- Anger with your brother (Mt 5:22)
      3- crafty conversation (Job 15: 4-6)
      4- Double tongued (1 Tim 3:8)
      5- Contention (Pv 17:14)
      6- Despising others (2 Tim 3:3; Lk 18:9)

    Rock said:
    January 31, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Pastor Will Warren has nothing to fear. God is stronger in Lemon Grove than these groups are , through God all things are possible.

      Polyman71 said:
      January 31, 2013 at 4:14 AM

      Pastor Will Warren has nothing to fear. Thor is stronger in Lemon Grove than these groups are , through Thor all things are possible.

        Chris said:
        January 31, 2013 at 1:44 PM

        Which God? Odin? Votan?

      Wavel said:
      January 31, 2013 at 1:41 PM

      "through God all things are possible"

      I wish to be a foot taller. Please. Why hasn't it happened yet?

      Also, when is someone going to fix the spelling mistake in the title?

    phillistine said:
    January 31, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    In the future, when our great grandchildren read these web archives, they're going to laugh at the theists who are worried by such a benign sign.

    Also, mister D. Hall, the world has lost a lot due to theism, even today we refuse basic human rights to fellow US citizens because of theist's interpretation of some old text in an old book. As a society, as a species, we stand to lose everything if we believe in a god. We already did lose everything once, the period that followed was called the dark ages.

    Alexis said:
    January 31, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Every time I try to post something on here Fox keeps deleting it.

      Theist said:
      January 31, 2013 at 9:43 AM

      Same here.

    Alexis said:
    January 31, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    The United States is supposed to be a country of freedom in speech and religion. If it is okay for Christian billboards to be put up, it should be okay for atheist, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim, or boards of any other creed to be posted.

      Ruiz said:
      February 2, 2013 at 9:06 AM

      The statement on this board implies that those that are not atheist are somehow not based in reality? Nice upper cut. I don’t wear my religious proclivity on my sleeve but does my family owning a company with a $2B valuation make us unrealistic? Does this defer the power of prayer in my our own lives? I know religion isn't for everyone but neither is employing 1,500 good folks but I defer. Just curious is all.

    Jay said:
    January 31, 2013 at 5:29 AM

    Praying is the same as saying, " I care, but not really enough to actualy do something about it"

      Nona31 said:
      January 31, 2013 at 9:18 AM

      Jay you are so wrong. Maybe you should read a little more instead of just copying comments you read online. Bible teaches Faith ( praying) with actions : In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.. James 2.17

      Stop being an ignorant Atheist and educate your self first. You can't be a good Atheist by just copying comments you see somewhere else. Read the bible for your self and then draw your own conclusions.

    Theist said:
    January 31, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    Administrator, why won't you let me post a reply?

    Jay said:
    January 31, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Nona, thank you for your reply. First off I have read the bible twice, I have also read the mormon book of Abraham, and part of e Koran. As most people know the more you read the bible the less believable it really is.

    I said nothing about Faith, I was talking about prayer. Faith is very important to some people and gives them hope and direction. Prayer on the other hand is hoping for action by doing nothing but praying. looks at Mark 11:24 "Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." see no action required.

    Nona, I do not profess to know more about the bible then you, but I know very few Christians that have actually read the bible, much less know what the Eucharist really is, or what the ONLY unforgivable sin is. which I have committed , no it's not murder, rape or stealing, all that will be forgiven. if you know what that is, would you not agree how ridiculous it really is… read MARK 3:29.

      Michael said:
      January 31, 2013 at 2:46 PM

      So based on the bible, saying "goddamn" is an eternal sin, but rape and murder will be forgiven.

      Thanks for the lessons on morality, god!

    Keith said:
    January 31, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    A similar billboard on Atheism went up here in Omaha. It made news for a day, and that was it. Billboards are an expensive way of advertising and I don't see Atheism as a group who has lots of money to toss away on a billboard. But if they choose to do so, then that is Free thinking at its finest.

    Nona31 said:
    January 31, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Jay, you are reading out of context. Jesus begins with saying Have Faith in God.. ( v. 22 ) You can't just pray and say " I want a car" that's blind praying.. and utterly ridiculous and people who preach that aren't preaching the real word of God. You need to have faith in prayer. They go hand in hand ( bottom line) . reading the book of mormon and the Koran will only confuse you, trust me! Jesus always spoke in parables to make it easier for people to understand… and it's still applicable in today's world. A book that's more than 2000 years old , still valid and still #1 seller? Something in there is different. It gives a resolution for a dying world. The mormon book and the koran don't. If you read the bible as it was intended you would get out of it that from the beginning there was a plan of
    redemption.. I really hope you do read it again Jay, and see that. in regards to the sin, it's your decision. My Job here is to tell you Jesus loves you, and wants to offer you salvation. You have free will to accept it or toss it away. Look You don't know me, I don't know you. We might never ever see each other but I pray and hope that you give it a chance. Also that sin that you're thinking about.. well like they say, while still living there's hope.. I don't think it's unpardonable unless of course you die.

    Gatekeeper1663 said:
    January 31, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    I believe everyone has the right to their own opinion. They also have the right to advertise just as the Church does. It is always up to the individual as to whether they will ignore the billboard as those who believe in Christ should do of think about what the billboard has to say. I am not an Athiest, nor am I a practicing member of any religion.

    Mark said:
    January 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Don't cast your pearls before swine…they're not going to be convinced.
    Eph 4:18
    They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart.

      Michael said:
      January 31, 2013 at 2:42 PM

      They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of knowledge because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart.

      - Rational adult

    Atheist Bob said:
    January 31, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Psst it is atheist!! You call yourself a reporter yet you can't even spellcheck your headline? It is your profession?! Seriously…

    Pat said:
    January 31, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Grab a rock and hit someone with it. first, the rock is real. second, it matters how we behave. so, for me there must be a cause for the rock, and a standard of behavior expected. that should be evidence for even the most simple. but no amount will open a closed mind, or shut an open one.

    Michael said:
    January 31, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Lovely billboard, would love to see it in my area.

    "“For such a type of believe stating there’s nothing else that connects them together and they’re coming together for a sense of community? I don’t get that,” said Warren."

    ^What a hilarious bit of irony, huh. Most atheists feel we are all connected by being humans on earth. Religions prefer to segment and divide us.

    "Some residents have also expressed concern over whether the billboard will be too distracting for drivers."

    …what? Isn't this the key purpose of a billboard?

    Wllow Beam said:
    January 31, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    I believe that this group is sharing a positive message to think and research for yourself. One might not agree with the findings, but we must respect one another's ability to follow or not follow a religion.

    Whatever you send out returns threefold.
    -A Witch's 10 Commandments, pg 161

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